Sunday, November 4, 2007

The so called short cut to success

-------I will try to keep it as short and simple as possible-------
Yeah! they assure you with a huge success.you will soon have a big home ... a nice ride..and a lot of bank balance..Yeah people have done it and they can count on a numerous examples... people like Padmawati (name changed) who bought a house in chennai for a crore of rupees .and many more similar personalities.and all you need to do is some investment..afterall its a business, You put some.. you get some huge returns. So let me start off from the very start from where the trap is laid and your money and time is swallowed.


The Beginning of the Trap


Okay so this Guy who contacts you through a very good friend starts off from the very basic marketing techniques. He sarts telling you about the demand and supply and how does the limited supply along with growing demand makes the monetary value grow. There are no false statements in this part. Its all true, and every common man already knows it.
Then he starts of telling about the company which makes coins but in limited numbers. So according to them, when the number is limited, the value will raise.He , very often talks about the business. "Company apko business de rahi hai aur saath mei uska product. Aap uske product ko market karo and they will pay you money". There have been so many similar companies doing the same stuff, and when you tell him that you already know of such practices, he fights back and assures you that there is a difference. As he says "Here you can make a maximum number of 2 members under you directly, So all the top members help out the people at lower order get some referrals.


The Net (is woven and it) Workz


After a while he will probably start off with the tree diagram , showing how the binary network works. And then very boldly he says "once you are done with two members under you,then they will start making members under them, this way every week you will get a cheque of Rs.11500/ " Is it some kinda joke!! Every week you getting a cheque of Rs 11500/-.
Till this time , he has made you all very excited and charged up. Now comes his final blow.


The Last Act of Kindness !!


Now, he knows , its time to let you know about the actual game plan. He asks you, if you possess a credit card. If you have already, he advises you to apply for two more. (after all he is your friend and he would never want you to run after him for money). So once the deadline for one credit card approaches, simply transfer the amount to another card. Sounds so easy isnt it? So he already wants you to start cheating. At this point you cant think that even you are on the verge of being cheated.
He then tells you about the investment. He wants you to buy his product for Rs 32000/- . Which includes a Gold coin and a silver one too. :P . As said by him, "Once you make the payment, you become a member and you are ready to start your own business. And if you are not interested in the coin , you put a post on ebay, you can literally have an auction and the price you can get is upto Rs 40000/- .
You Pay the money!! and its over. You get the coins, now play with them. Try putting them up on ebay and find me one single man who paid more than Rs 8000/- for that.
Me and my friends have suffered from this. Just to warn you about that. the real picture is quite different than they actually present it in front of us.
I request you to learn to say No!! . Dont get pusshed out of the limits. Just say No! . We couldnt do this , so we repent today. I dont want more fellows getting down in this shit just for the sake of earning huge sum of money some day.


This article is an experience of me and my know ones. If you went through a similar situation please comment here. I will be scanning the web and posting the articles related to this one.

49 comments:

Vikas said...

Yeah even i made that mistake!! Now what good are those gold coins for... Well iam planning to sell them off soon ..as the gold prices have increased a bit.. hope to get around 7000 to 8000 for it.

Amit Sharma said...

The same happened to me. Lost it all and now the credit card company is looking for me!!

Jack Point said...

good work, keep it up.

Anonymous said...

You guys are luckier than me, I end up with a BIODISC, just a piece of glass made by Schott of Germany, no value at all, it's inventor Dr. Ian also seem to be a scammer fake Dr.

Maxy said...

Guys, we have suffered and survived somehow. Lets create awareness amongst people. Spread the word.

Caveman said...

Haa Haa!! i have always been telling guys to stay away, i really dont understand why you guys are so much after money. Work and work good. Its more of a reputation for me than money. I cant afford to earn a bad name for myself amongst my friends and known ones.
Still its a pretty decent effort to create awareness among people.

Anonymous said...

Inspite of repeated warning, my husband fell into this trap. No gold coin. some watch which if of no use. they say its diamond studded. but no buyers for it till date. Dead investment for past 5 months and i have no hope that he will earn anything from this. Created rift in the family because of his decision to invest when so much of household needs are yet to be fulfilled. Begged him to get me a sewing machine. Could have earned more from that than this. Lets spread the awareness. DO NOT JOIN QUEST NET

Gautam said...

Hey Anonymous,
Really sad to know people can be that foolish. And i really appreciate the way you have taken up to increase awareness.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

If you are not equiped with business knowledge, Once you start attending QN business presentation they will work on your weakness and brainwashing you and ventually you will be trapped. they are very good in brainwashing, so don't even attend their meeetings, convention, etc

Winner said...

Hey losers ! if all of u wud have joined the hands now instead of writing ur failure stories, then by this time u wud have started getting cheques !!
The people who really dont have dreams and care about the pittiest thing in life and not ready to take risks and moreover are here to show and cry on their failures
are really not worth this business !!
Thank god u people quit and are helping the business !!

Anonymous said...

Winner, Can you tell me in how mych time you started getting cheques? and from where you will get people who will invest such huge amount?

Gautam Dogra said...

Hi Winner,
Good that you earned a lot , but only after fooling sumbody and am not sure that the people who joined hands with you are still happy with it.
You talk of joining hands? we too wanted to join hands but when we get into the real picture theres nobody other tha you yourself...and in the hand we join ou both the hands and pray to God to help us and to request people not fall prey to these kind of false people. Winner you might have won in this battle..and you are proud to call yourself a winner but you see you bluffed your very own friends and relatives.
Its not for the honest people.

mahendra said...

hi loosers,
plz listen to the winner advice, u open u eyes atleast now, u will be benifited...u people don;t have patience, and no dare to face the challanges.........

Gautam Dogra said...

So we have another so called "Winner"

Antonmax said...

anonymous,

I am a mit confused: Are you some ho or the other "related" to specilised? Were you the one doing all the cycling up and down borneo highlands looking for magical stones and drinking magical mountain stream water? Were you the one suggesting cycling in Le Tour De Langkawi avec pieces of that glass thing pasted all over your body to give you a boost? Hey, I miss my friend specilised and his comments, so if you are mon ami, where have you been?

Anonymous said...

yeah even many of my friends have joined in questnet ignoring me, now they r learning as questnet is facing problem in bangalore. CoD is investigating the case, questnet MD has escaped from india, its in the verge of being banned like in srilanka, newzeland etc... Another Ecom business RMP is doing v gud. any one know any thing about it?

Gautam said...

Hi Anonymous,
I really appreciate your feedback.
Its true that goldquest is being banned all over. The CEO of the company is fleeing.Now i want question all theos "so called winners " who have spent there not so valuable time putting in entries into my blog, tell me do you still think you are a winner. Belive me there is no shortcut to sucess except hardwork.
Thanks to all the people who supported my point of view.

Prabhat Chauhan said...

hi Gautam,
i am too late to read this blog and
fall prey in hands of my own childhood friend he also fell prey to his senior.while they people are giving me presentation they people used the same steps you have mentioned and at that time what the hell happen to me at the same time i take out my credit card and lost my hard earned 32k..this business is operating at large rate at pune and mumbai now i am repenting this is all fraud we are making fool to others to purchase value less product ..till now i haven't recieved coin ....bloody shit i want to kill that person who give me presentation and i am sure no one can make me fool...but words of my own brother like friend take me to hell......

but at this time i think we should have to do some thing that will prevent our friends from getting prey of this hell....
thanks gautam you have taken intative i am thinking of chained mailing to our friends and relatives

Regards,
Prabhat Chauhan

Anonymous said...

Hi i am also a part of this scam & really want your help. I want all my people who has invested money back because i got to know this fraud company.And really i am into a burden that i any how have to fight with quest net & need to get my people's money back.

GAUTAM said...

Hi Anonymous,

Its sad that you suffered a loss but all of us who comment over here are frmo the suffering end. We did have some "WINNERS" posting on my blog but clearly disapprove there statements.
All we can do is to increase awareness about the similar kinds of business.
Lets save other people from getting into this shit. In the mean time, lets see if the legal proceeding take place in time, there may be a part of the money that might be returned, but there is a very very faint chance of the same.

Karthick said...

my friend also got in to this and he tried to get my room mates also in to this..this happened 2 days back..i warned him but he did not listen to me b'cos he has already swiped his credit card...i dont know whether to laugh for this or not..i heard the same points from my friend also yesterday and a day before...infact there was a misunderstanding b/w me and he since i told him it is fraud network...

Anonymous said...

hey guys.... unluckily.. fell into the hands of the highly talented brainwashers... that too jus a week before.. but luckily.. I ve not swiped my credit card.. it was the one who gave me the presentation... he payed for me.. now I ve come to know that this is a fraud company.. m not gonna pay him back... bu plz get me below details if possible :
1. Is the company registered under company Act.\?
2. The TDS that they cut in all the checks, is it real? Does it really go to IT Dept. If yes the in which account.
3. Is there any way to roll back this whole scene... :-( I know this is a wiered question.. but thrs always a ray of hope.

-------------------------
Fine, Thats it... But one thing is clear - The money which the members giv to the company... goes to the parent company.. n if this network grows.. then It would cause a great drain of foreign exchange. This is indeed a huge loss to Indian Economy. I ve been te pray .. plz spread the word of awareness. Can we ask TOI for giving a detailed report on this !!!

Anonymous said...

HI...
I had also attended same presentation which is explained by Gautam.But i didn't join it Bcoz i thought it is easy to invest ur money but not easy to make others for such things...
Hw one can ask fndz and relatives to invest in it and give assurance of money...
Bcz First check as per presenters will come after making 6 members (3-4 months),Till who knows u will get check or not

Best Idea is ask presenter it self to invest onbehalf of us and we will return money after getting all those Check ;)

Anonymous said...

They r spreading business in Mumbai and Pune at very fast rate
On every weekends they r taking presentations and trapping 4-5 fools per presentation

We can lodge complaint in police...

kumar said...

Go and give complaints idoits... why r u simply crying here. Hope all of you dont have any work....

Gautam Dogra said...

Nobody is crying over here. Its all about increasing awareness so that common people are aware of such looting techniques. And one should know that there is no use of complaining it to anybody. The money is gone. What we should aim at is to stop any further activities.

aThankFullPerson said...

A very good blog, you exactly told what really happened at the presentation,
check this blog

http://abhisays.com/ideas-and-thoughts/beware-of-goldquest-or-questnet.html

in this he gave news paper articles and other related articles on how it duped many people, few days back TV9(one of AP news channel) reported a story, how this company duped many people.

and for so called "Winners" please read this blog
http://users.openface.ca/~cobe/eth/quest.html

for knowing how you are supporting your country's economy by completely draining it.

a suggestion to the blog owner please put up such links so that "WINNERS" wont bark without proof

aThankFullPerson said...

A very good blog, you exactly told what really happened at the presentation,
check this blog

Blog1

in this he gave news paper articles and other related articles on how it duped many people, few days back TV9(one of AP news channel) reported a story, how this company duped many people.

and for so called "Winners" please read this blog
Blog 2

for knowing how you are supporting your country's economy by completely draining it.

Quest'd Up -|-- said...

Hi friends, keep up the good work, let the awareness spread. Unfortunatley i also fell prey to this fucking scam. Thanks to the so called leaders..MoFo's(Prashant, Abhi, Ranjit... Bangalore BTM centre) These guys sure would die a rotten death.

The Biggest Loss in this whole fucking thing was not the money, but my own friends. Some whom I'll never trust again in my life and some for whom I feel sorry as I could have warned them, but I stood like a silent spectator.I wish I Had....

Time and again such things remind us of the old traditional values that we were taught in school..."Honesty is the best policy" "There are no-shortcuts to success".

As Gautam truly said in the blog, It's time we learn to say No and teach others to say NO too.

Anonymous said...

However i'm late to read this blog,i'm a victim of the mental torture that i was inflicted upon by my frends,insisting me to join this bloody organization..People never know wat they are doin..u make other people join and wen 2 to 3 people join payin 33k each,it’s really a very big sum for the company but wat u r being paid is nothin man…think twice b4 u end up messing everythin ultimately loosing ur hard earned money…and the funniest part is that my frends r still pursuing me to join this bullshit even after such a big hungama as the office getting sealed and officials being arrested..this organization is designed in such a way that even after loosing one’s money,the individual will not realize his folly of having invested foolishly but instead become more foolish by cursing himself of not having worked satisfactorily to earn more money or start cursing people who have joined under him thinking that it’s all bcoz of them not having worked enough …really foolish idea man…..questnet sucks…i was made to sit for hours together and brainwashed..thank god that i haven’t joined…but let’s atleast pray for the people who really in need of money,have lost everythin in life….let’s hope they get back somethin of their investment…anyways thank you dude for having created this wonderful blog to create awareness among other innocent people...My sincere advice is "guys plz don join this and lose goodwill among ur frends,relatives and others"

Gautam Dogra said...

Hi Anonymous,

You have a good spirit and thats what counts the most. People are joining this without any thought. Its only after few months that they realize that it is not going to take them anywhere. But till then its too late.

I ask you guys to circulate this link to all your friends like i did.

We need to create awareness.

I thank each and every person who took his precious time out to comment here.

db7 said...

hey people..

keep up the good work of spreading awareness..i am also going through this.. i joined QN.. and after attending the training i understood that I had to cheat my friends too..so I called it quits the very next day..read my full story if you want to know what i went through..

technotipz.blogspot.com

Baski said...

Hi all,
I am not the winner or the loser.
Just check the case by case. Has anyone didnot get the cheque after referring 3 left and 3 right ?

The presentation is being given to us very clearly. Once you start referring and helping the downlines to get their references, we get cheques.

U take every produce u use. Soap, Toothpaste, mobile, etc... Every product is having around 60 % profit which goes to company. In network market it goes to the upline people who was the reason for you to be in the network.

Let us understand all this before commenting.

This is the major plus and minus of network marketing. ITs the people business.

Anonymous said...

MLM Watchdog Rod Cook did warn early about Goldquest. But not all companies out there are bad, like the new mlm company josephwealthsystems

www.OwnPrivateGold.com

Gauhar said...

I can't believe this scam is still active... People are just too optimistic, and will believe any far-fetched story of instant wealth.

Raghu Nayak said...

Whatever you have written is 100% correct..

One of my friend referred me to this scheme.. During the initial introduction time, They said whatever you have written.. Ditto..

I'm glad that, I said No at that time.. :-)

Anonymous said...

Those 'friendly' questnet morons gave me a presentation today! just thought abt checking about the legitimicy of the organization on the internet, and Iam thankful to God and the blogger for exposing the fraudulent organization!!

Thanks for your help! God save this country from Questnet!

Anonymous said...

A Question for the people who have joind Quest and Failed. I would LOVE to call them MORONS
So You MORONS tell me one thing when someone was explaining you the Business where was your intellegence? Didnt you wanted to earn money? YOU wanted to earn money that's why you joined you BLOODY MORONS. But lack of knowledge lack of commonsense and LACK OF BELIEF you failed. each and every MORONS now crying because they all are hopeless and worthless, I am personaly surrounded with the people who is making $1000s and seen friends who where nothing before joining quest.
One day you all bloody MORONS will join this Questnet for sure.

tojasim said...

regrets

I dont think so a scam company will last for 10yrs with over 60 countries worldwide or contract with fifa till 2020 or qicomm in london for telecommunication products or a company investing money in market for the future returns , i was referred to this company abt 3 yrs ago by my friend and i refused really not had that much cash that time but now he is rich enough and me the same . i regret . guyz beforre joining you should do a research before because its your hardearned money . check the companys details and etc..
regarding network marketing or internet . i will give you a example ...... HENRY FORD TOOK HIM 30 YRS TO MAKE 1BILLION $$ WHEREAS FOUNDER OF FACEBOOK JUST TOOK TWO YRS TO MAKE THAT . i hope you see the difference . this is the power of internet basically itS all depends on network marketing as the base . SO GUYZ STOP COMPLAINING , BY THIS TIME you WOULD HAVE GOT YOUR MONEY BACK WHAT YOU INVESTED ATLEAST . these kind of investment does not work for all , overall you guyz were stupid to join the company first without doing your own research . grow ups guyz dont act as kids . i have joined questnet a month ago now purchased a watch (happy for what i purchased ) and really got my money back what i invested . around 90% people saw the watch and they liked it & wanted it too and then they were interested in way the company works . By this i did not lie and GOT MY MONEY BACK wat i invested and now if i get more money by people joining i have no problem (LET IT COME).

ALWAYS THINK BEFORE YOU PURCHASE A PRODUCT ATLEAST NOT GOLD COINS 2.79GMS FOR 32000 haahaha..

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous who highlighted MORONS


" I am personaly surrounded with the people who are making $1000s "

Why dont you do the same to earn thousand dollars? Its easy to see people earning huge sums but when it comes to you, it is then you realize the ground reality.

Gautam Dogra said...

@tojasim


I liked the way you emphasized on "ALWAYS THINK BEFORE YOU PURCHASE A PRODUCT ATLEAST NOT GOLD COINS 2.79GMS FOR 32000 haahaha.."

It means to be the last statement indeed.

Anshul said...

good post. people should research on the net before joining up scams like goldquest and then asking their friends / families to join them...

koka said...

So i refused to work yesterday but i am not loser if u think that i just failed bcuz of the money NO i say u I earned 250$per week minimum so by the way my religion is MUSLIM so I was said that it is HARAM business cuz u build ur hapinness or success BY THE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO WILL SUFFER A LOT BCOZ OF U BUT BY THAT TIME IT MIGHT BE THAT U WILL NOT FEEL THAT HAVING SOME FUN somewhere with Girls when that boy or girl will look for money SOMWHERE!!! THE REASON WHY I REFUSED 2 WORK is: as u know there was presentation so then follow up and FOLLOW MONEY as we called to help to find money it will be correctly to say force to find money so she was living in the village and she sold her last cow which gives its milk to her grandpa and grandma but she has no friends and relatives who can invest 700$ what to do who is the guilty??? obviously not she bcoz she was brainwashed plz as so called WINNERS who still keep working think a bit about 2morrow might be that you will reach the top but I CAN SURELY say that u will reach the top ALONE WITHOUT ORIGIN FRIENDS. Becasue i work for about 1 year i was about to lose my friends Be realistic do not be under ur fantasy!!! my nick name is rejoice AND WE ARE GONNA STOP QUESTNET IN KAZAKHSTAN IN within 3 months!!!!

James said...

I'm from Malaysia and I started QN in Feb 2005 and successfully signed up my first downline, of course with the help of an upline. Things look promising and my downline was so fired up to make it a success.

My downline purchased an i-Connect and it was then a new product and due to shortage, many people waited for months for it to be delivered. My downline got so pissed off when the product took so long to arrive that he called the office to cancel the order, even to face a rude staff over the phone, but finally he cancelled the order and I lost a downline (including the 1uv generated).

I then slogged in QN for nearly 2 years, not to forget I bought the gold coin when joining, and later a BioDisc too. Not to forget, I have also spent nearly RM800 for an international leadership camp in Bukit Tinggi and RM1700 for the V-Malaysia 2006 hoping to learn and be successful in the business.

Besides, I've also spent to attend all the trainings, etc. only to eventually quit doing QN when all I found was, the market is so limited that people who wanted to join had joined earlier and late comers are the ones losing out.

Instead of giving me financial freedom, I ended up with huge debts at the end of 2006, which is the turning point when I decided to quit.

Today, I basically believe QN is just a scam. Although they have products, but all the products sold by QN are not products that people actually need and they are mostly not consumable, which means no repeat purchase.

If you really want to do MLM, do it with a company that focuses on products, products and products!

Anonymous said...

I find mostly BIG TIME LOOSERS on this blog... I am pretty successful and within a month earned 1.4lac Rs. Similarly my friends who have joined have also started getting checques... My friends are thanking me for showing this path... I always say " this is no easy money game" and it requires a lot of efforts... All those who r loosers or lazy bums should not be joining my chain.... U all froget the fact... there is no free lunch whether it is any part of life... u struggle and if u have faith, then ONLY U taste SUCCESS. What everyone says 80% are not successful... I see a few of those 80% in this blog.... In the end ask urself from bottom of ur heart... that did u desrve success on ur efforts of learning the business. U all will have the answers.

Anonymous said...

Successful people do not crib... Only people who have failed and are living a negative life or having a negative outlook fail. Suggest u LOOSERS should get in touch with ur upline and ask them why u all have failed.. and if u want they wuld still help u in achieving success.

Suraj Pandey said...

One should not just spread confusion about such a good company. If some people are performing unethical activity, you cannot blame the whole company to be a fraud. QNET is a perfectly legitimate company with a brilliant at the same time simple business model. I have my personal experience with QNet since last 2.5yrs. It is a very simple business model if you are ready to work hard and also be honest. QNet is also lawful and one of the best MLM businesses around the globe. If you are hard working and want to be active business man then this is one for you. Hope you understand me.

Anonymous said...

All products are of good Quality, they don’t have any side effects. What else do people want? Questnet is a big firm, Very professional at the same time very supportive to all. I have attended all the training sessions and I am very satisfied of being a part of Questnet. It’s not only me but also an aunt of mine who is very happy as she is independent, and is supporting her family.

Anonymous said...

Just got contacted by a member of the QI Group. I instantly knew it is one of those pyramid-shits. The only thing I don't know is how he got hold of my phone number.

Oh, and for those people who actually profit from QNET, say anything you want; we're not buying it.

The simplest way to the path of millionaires is hard work. That, and nothing else.